Second Generation

2. Mr William BALL was born on 31 Jul 1799 in Ickenham.^2,10,11 [[[Birth note: 1851 census, aged 51][date also in Baptism record][aged 71 in 1871 as a Widr]]] He was baptized on 31 Jul 1799 in St Giles, Ickenham.⁵ [Baptism note: Transcribed Parish Registers. Parents were William and Susanna](IGI LDS Susana) About 1841 he was a Gardener in Ickenham.⁹ About 1851 he was a Gardener.¹⁰ [Occupation note: 1851 Census] He lived in Back Lane, Ickenham about 1851.¹⁰ [Residence note: 1851 Census] He lived in Ickenham Hall about 1861.¹² [Resided at note: 1861 census. Also a visitor Susan E Anderson 11 b Ickenham. Who?] About 1861 he was a Gardener. About 1869 he was a Gardener.¹³ [Occupation note: on Marriage document of his son, Henry Edward] About 1871 he was a Parish Clerk and Sexton.¹⁴ He lived in Ickenham, Back Lane about 1871.¹⁴ [Resided at note: as father to Henry E ball] He died before 9 Jan 1875.^4,15 [[[[Death note: Buried 9 Jan 1875][Ball family grave, St. Giles Church Ickenham.
Footstone W.B. 1875 (generally gravestones have death dates)]
[Letter from JA Ralph, Verger reads "The headstone was discovered purely by accident. It had toppled and was covered in about 2 inches of soil and grass. The surface is badly eroded and extremely difficult to read."
"Headstone has WILLIAM BALL and below 4 lines (not readable) and ELIZABETH BALL and below 4 lines (not readable) and GEORGE BALL and below 4 lines (not readable).
The Footstone has W.B. 1875 and below E.B. 1868 and below G.B. 1866"][Possibly FBMD Mar q 1875 aged 74 Uxbridge 3a 23]]]] He was buried on 9 Jan 1875 in St Giles, Ickenham.⁷ [Burial note: aged 74 in Parish register transcription by HFHS] [[General note: I have also found in 1841 a family living in Hammersmith with William, Elizabeth and William of correct ages but rest of family different][Also William, a gardener, as aged 40: Elizabeth as aged 40: George 14: Arthur 11: Charlotte 5: and Ann Pew 4 and John Pew 1. (cf another Pew from memory *** . NOV '07: I cannot find a Pew now!!! Pugh?) (Also next door was a female Servant Sarah Huggins as aged 20 (to Rev'd John Addison, as a Clerk)]]

1841 children ??
(William 40)(Elizabeth 40)
George 14: Arthur 11: Charlotte 5

Mr William BALL and Miss Elizabeth WEBSTER were married before 1823.^16,17 [[[Marriage note: Birth document of son HE BALL][ IGI chr of son, HE BALL][Possibly IGI: 11 Mar 1821 St Marylebone (BN 1031449)]]] Miss Elizabeth WEBSTER was born about 1800 in London.^2,10 [[[Birth note: name on Birth doc. of son Henry Edward][1851 census, aged 50][from Burial record aged 68 in 1868]]](IGI has several births etc. in London c 1800) She died before 3 Sep 1868.⁴ [[Death note: Burial 3 Sep 1868][Ball family grave, St. Giles Church Ickenham.
Footstone E.B. 1868 (generally gravestones have death dates)]](FBMD Sep q 1868 68 Uxbridge 3a 18) She was buried on 3 Sep 1868 in St Giles, Ickenham.⁷ [Burail note: aged 68 in Parish register transcription by HFHF] Mr William BALL and Miss Elizabeth WEBSTER had the following children:

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Mr William Henry BALL TBC was born before 6 Apr 1823.¹⁸ [Birth note: IGI Chr 6 Apr 1823] He was christened on 6 Apr 1823 in Harefield, Middlesex.¹⁹ [Christening note: IGI] [[General note: IGI Chr. Parents William and Elizabeth Ball. Place and dates similar to this family (there was more that one William and Elizabeth of similar ages in 1841)]
[A William Ball aged 15 on 1841 census is living with Robert Stent aged 20 and Elizabeth Treadaway aged 1. Is this the same person? Age is 3 years different. Note: 1841 census usually rounded down the age of over 15's to nearest 5 (but an Emma nearby was as age 16)]]
(Cannot find his possible family on 1861 census)
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Miss Emma BALL.
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Mr George BALL was born before 14 Jan 1827 in Middlesex.²⁰ [Birth note: 1841 census aged 14. Born in County] He was christened on 14 Jan 1827 in Harefield, Middlesex.²¹ [Christening note: IGI] He died before 3 Feb 1866.^22,23 [[Death note: Ball family grave, St. Giles Church Ickenham.
Footstone G.B. 1866 (generally gravestones have death dates)][FBMD: Mar q 1866 aged 36 Uxbridge 3a 19]]] He was buried on 3 Feb 1866.⁵ [Burial note: 3 Feb 1866 aged 36] [General note: A Burial is recorded in St Giles, Ickenham records (source: HFHS) of a George Ball on 3 Feb 1866 aged 36. Birth and Christening c 1827. Therefore approx. 2 year "error" if same person. We have therefore assumed same person, though. Was age 38?](Cannot find him on censuses ?? A few b London, Middx. and other places but not near Harefield)
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Mr Alfred BALL was born before 1 Jul 1829.¹⁸ [Birth note: IGI Chr. 1 Jul 1829] He was christened on 1 Jul 1829 in West Drayton.²⁴ [Christening note: IGI (Par reg)] [General note: IGI Chr. Parents William and Elizabeth. Place and dates similar to this family](Cannot see on any census and no suitable death???)
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Mr Arthur BALL was born on 15 May 1830 in Middlesex.^9,24 We seem to have two Arthur. [[Birth note: 1841 Census aged 11 BiC living in Ickenham][date on IGI Par reg (but not on FBMD)]] (No suitable Arthur on 1851 (there is a Coach Man ? with no birth place): therefore did he die? But cannot see a suitable death on FBMD)
query below
1861 there is an Arthur Ball 28 b West Drayton with family (wife Jane 23 b Bedford) in a Militia Depot, Goldington Road in Bedford as a Serjeant (and others as Sergeant.)
Marriage Sep q 1857 Jane Tinsley Bedford R-d 3b 549
1871 aged 40 and Jane 35 with large family still in Depot but b Harrold Beds !! and Jane b elsewhere. Odd
1881 all 10 years on and b as 1871
1891 cannot find parents but Walter (5 on 1881) is 16 and a lodger in Bedford and John (9) is 19 and boarding in Stockport
There is another Arthur 60 Draper b in Bracknell (as Bracknall) on 1891 which I mistook because of daughter Clara b c 1870 in Bedford and living in Sandy AND a widowed sister Charlotte Butter/s ? 52 b Ickenham

(1881 Charlotte A Butler b Ickenham aged 42 widow with son Charles 19 b Ickenham and Clara 11 b Epping living in Weston Mare)(cannot find a suitable or near miss Charles or a marriage)(Clara sep q 1869 Epping 4a 87)
1871 cannot find Charlotte but query Clara Butler 1 b Theydon as a nurse child
1861 cannot find Charlotte

Deaths of a Jane aged 55 in 1890 in Biggleswade R-d (includes Clifton) and 1920's in Bedford area
Death Dec q 1897 Arthur Ball aged 67 Bedford R-d 3b 211 SO where was he 1891 so not reg after poss death of wife ?
He was christened on 20 Jun 1830 in West Drayton.²⁴
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Mr Charles Webster BALL was born before 15 Jun 1834. [Birth note: Baptised 15 Jun 1834] He was baptized on 15 Jun 1834 in St Giles, Ickenham.^25,26 [Baptism note: Parish register transcription by Hillingdon Family History Society] He died before 7 Dec 1834.²⁶ [Death note: Buried 7 Dec 1834] He was buried on 7 Dec 1834 in St Giles, Ickenham.⁷ [Burial note: Parish register transcription by Hillingdon Family History Society]
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Miss Charlotte Ann BALL was born before 27 Dec 1835.²⁷ [Birth note: 1841 census aged 5 named Charlotte][Baptised 27 Dec 1835 (IGI Par reg)]] She was baptized on 27 Dec 1835 in St Giles, Ickenham.^7,26 [Baptism note: Parish register transcription by Hillingdon Family History Society. (also IGI SCN 0568852)] [[General note: on 1851 there is a CB aged14 and b St. Giles, Middlesex (as others, which is a parish), not 16, visiting in Lambeth, a Robert Crofts, 22 (Artist) and Jane, 20. (and Jane a few months old: poss Bon FBMD and also poss D because not on 1861). FBMD has marrriage of a Robert Crofts and possibly a Jane Ball Sep q 1850 Newington 4 440. (Jane Ball not on IGI). (R and J Crofts also on 1861)
Did not find CAB on 1851? or 1861. No marriage on FBMD. There is a death Sep q 1841 of Charlotte (not Ann) in Uxbridge (R-d) 3 228.
(1841 a Jane Ball 10 in Brentford with parents Henry and Mary. Also others of similar age in Middx. inc. in St Giles and St George (Finsbury) aged 10 with parents George and Jane)] [Conclusion - "Ours" probably died young]]
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Mr Henry Edward BALL.
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Mr Arthur BALL was born before 1852.^28,29 We seem to have two Arthur. [Birth note: see Burial record 1 May 1852 aged 4m] cf 1841 has an Arthur aged 11, so were there two? or not a son, poss a grandson?. FBMD does not have a suitable birth of an Arthur c 1840 or 1852 **. Query actually 4m ** when died or not registered?
IGI Born 15 May 1830: Chr 20 June 1830 West Drayton. SCN 0577569 Par.reg. with parents William and Elizabeth.
an Arthur not found on 1851. So did other die before aged 20?
Note: mother would be 52 ish
** There is a birth Sep q 1851 in Kensington (R-d) (including Fulham and Hammersmith) 3 416. and others but either a bit too early or late (??)
FBMD deaths: Jun q 1852 Uxbridge R-d 3a as 15 but cannot read ?
(also d Kensington Mar 1853) He died before 1 May 1852.³⁰ [[Death note: Buried 1 May 1852][FBMD Jun q 1852 Uxbridge 3a x (cannot read x original as 15 as transcribed]] (Or was this another Arthur?) He was buried on 1 May 1852 in Ickenham.³¹ [Burial note: aged 4 m. Is this correct?](We were at an FH fayre in Bracknell and visited HFHS) [General note: Assumed belongs to this family because of dates and location]
(WAS THIS A GRANDSON and NOT a SON. cf other Arthur bc 1840?)